. >> it's really outrageous that the national security agency was looking between the google data centers if that's true. the steps that the organization was willing to do without good judgment to pursue its mission and potentially violate people's privacy is not okay. it's just not okay. so in that sense the snowden revelations have assisted us in understanding that. it's perfectly possible that there are more revelations to come. >> schmidt says that google has registered complaints with the nsa, president obama and members of congress. gentlemen, joe you were saying before there are two camps of people. >> here's what the nsa said. the nsa referred to some of the press articles treatmently that they had misstated facts and mischaraterized the nsa. this is definitive. unless they're lying, the nsa follows all of the laws, regulations and policies and assertions do a grave disservice to the nation, its allies and partners and the money who make up the nsa. >> i was in the antisnowden camp but something i read yesterday in "the new york times" gives me a little bit of pause. they pointed